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Next: A Disappointing Day
Last Friday Next, iLevel and Buy.At held a voice conference in order for them to explain the recent ‘behaviour’ of the Next affiliate programme, allowing affiliates with concerns about the programme, to be heard. As many know, I have been somewhat outspoken about my recent concerns and despite no longer being involved with the merchant, decided to join to hear what they had to say. The intention wasn’t to stir up a hornets nest, but to hear from all 4 corners (affiliate, agency, merchant, network) and what they proposed for the future of the programme.
I have to say that once on the voice conference I was disappointed by the turn out from fellow affiliates. I know some were unable to make it due to prior commitments as a few apologies were read out at the beginning, some like myself work fulltime and therefore were never going to make it and some people had no intention of joining, for which I whole-heartedly respect their decision.
BUT… 2 affiliates – myself being 1 of them?…. and I’m no longer an affiliate of theirs!
My blog post got 112 backs, Next was blogged about by many other affiliates in the following days, and a simple search on the A4U forums shows that Next threads are by far the most hotly debated. This was a chance for affiliates to hear what Next propose to do in coming months, why they took certain decisions in the past and a chance to raise any issues. Yet no one took the opportunity?
I’m not going to blog about what was discussed in detail, as iLevel will be producing minutes which I’m sure will be made available shortly to anyone wanting to read them. Sadly I came away feeling that Next and iLevel heard what I said, but with some of the counter arguments, I am not too sure if they listened.
An example of this was when I stated that a 7 day cookie was being poor. My gripe was countered with the argument that M&S also offering a 7 day cookie. Granted, however M&S however offer 5% flat rate commission, somewhat more than what we have come to expect from Next. There was however mention of the introduction of tiered commissions, similar to Dixons, where it’s dependant on the product purchased.
I just wish more affiliates had been on the voice conference, even those that still believe the programme is acceptable as it is. I honestly believe this was a chance where the industry really opened up for the good, and I think it’s a prime opportunity that’s been missed by many to raise concerns, and hopefully steer a merchant in the right direction.
Anyway I also wanted to thank Next, Buy.At and iLevel for the chance of having the discussion. Whether I agree or not with what was discussed, it was a move in the right direction.
Read MoreNext Affiliate Programme Is A Disgrace To This Industry
Next Affiliate Programme
You will not silence me!
… A bit of history
The Next Affiliate Programme joined Affiliate Window and at the time I thought what a great programme, managed by a great agency (MVi) available on a great network (AWin). Sadly, it didn’t perform as well as I had hoped, but still managed to push close to £250,000 sales their way last year. It was one of those programmes that ticked over by itself I guess.
… Where they went wrong
Sadly for Next, things started to go wrong the minute they were nominated (and went on to win) the 2007 Best New Merchant, and some affiliates have questioned whether their award should be revoked! That’s how strong the feeling is in the Affiliate Community towards this merchant. Sadly Next have their head buried in the sand as are not open to any constructive critisim and never discuss their programme. They obviously think they are too big to engage with affiliates!
Don’t get me wrong, the Affiliate Marketing industry is one I love, find challenging and have made some very good friends from all sides, merchants, affiliates, agencies and networks. However I feel that merchants such as Next don’t bring anything good to the table, and are only to happy to abuse the industry and those involved in it.
… Oblivious and in denial
If Next actually cared about their affiliate programme, or if the agency or networks promoting them had the balls to stand up to a big brand and educate them, then they would soon realise why there is so much ill feeling. For a network or agency to add Next to their books doesn’t impress me at all, as I dont see any contribution they have made over the past year worth noting. With their attitude to affiliates in the future (see below) I am not convinced that they are even willing to learn by their mistakes – yet they wanted to wipe the slate clean! Lets have a quick look at their achievemtns to date in the affiliate marketing industry;
In Summary;
- Next dropped commissions just in time for Christmas (see here)
- They moved from a perfectly good, proactive, agency and network citing they wished to “clear the slate” (see here)
- There was nothing wrong from an affiliate POV, with the agency or network involved at the time. If Next wanted to clear the slate, then they should have started in-house and not laid blame at other peoples doorsteps!
- Next bid on trademarks of their competitors (see here)
- Next do not honour their 7 day cookie upon transfer of network (see here)
… New developments
Over the weekend I applied to join Next via the Buy.At network. Why? Well because I have some good SEO’d pages out there in the wild, and I guessed it would be best to make use of them. Upon applying, I received an email from Buy.At asking me to complete an “Affiliate Application” form. It was sent under the pretense that Next want to ”get a better understanding of their affiliate base”! Sorry, but anyone falling for this bullshit is in LaLa land! Next don’t give a toss about their affiliates, they simply want to clamp down on anyone who has anything bad to say about them, any gripes or groans, or they just want an alternative way to screw affiliates even more!
Do you have a blog?
Do you PPC or SEO?
Do you own a voucher code website?
What business is it of Nexts whether I have a blog, whether I SEO or PPC my websites or whether I have a discount code website? They should only concern themselves with the website where I promote them to ensure I do not break any guidelines.
I replied to Buy.At that if they wanted me to answer their questionnaire then I would request that Next answered my own set of questions, to determine whether they were a merchant I wanted to associate myself and my websites with. Remember a partnership is a two way agreement. I stated that in my questionnaire I would be asking about the future of commission levels, the bidding on other merchants trademarks etc. I presume from the response, Next wouldn’t complete my questionnaire;
“I appreciate that you have had issues with Next in the past and have been quite vocal in your thoughts regarding their programmes. In light of this Next has decided that they would prefer not to work with you moving forward, particularly after your last blog entry.”
- presume you mean this blog entry, where I question their failure to honour sales within a cookie period, that in my eyes, amounts to theft!
OK, so to become an affiliate of Next you must NOT question their ethics, their business model or lack of morals. If you want to become a Next affiliate, you have to accept their decisions, conform to them, and never question anything. Basically become a nodding dog?
Sadly there are many nodding dogs out there in the Affiliate Marketing industry from all areas but I aint one. Some people will stoop to any level, given a back-hander or a favour and that leads me to question the future of this industry. Is it one I really want to be part of, yet continue to be disillusioned by?
Sadly I haven’t seen anything that Next have brought to this industry that they can hold their heads up high an be proud of. They have simply taken from affiliates, messed them around with changes in agencies, networks and commission structures and let them down by not honouring 7 cookie periods.
I sincerely hope this is a one off and no other merchants go down this route. In-fact Next could be held up as the prime example of how NOT to run an affiliate programme! I also hope in future, networks tell merchants who operate like this to sling their hook rather than focus on the £/$ a programme of this nature could generate for them. Get some balls!
Update
Just wanted to say thanks to everyones support on this. It’s a real eye opener to the numbers who are upset and dismayed at the Next affiliate programme, and their bully tactics. Sadly for Next the number of people who are pulling away from their programme as a result of this, is phenomenal. No affiliates want this to be seen by merchants as acceptable and I think if it’s allowed to continue, it could be a very bad precedent that’s set.
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